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Samuel Whitley
b. 1803
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Samuel Whitley (born 1803 per the family report) is said to be a son of John Whitley (1761-1838) and Margaret Hagerman (1771-1845), a United Empire Loyalist-associated family connected to Elizabethtown Township, Leeds County, Ontario. The parent couple is asserted by online family trees (Geni, RootsWeb), but only via uncited secondary trees, not primary records. Critically, the single source said to list Samuel among the children (Geni) could NOT be rendered directly by the auditing fetch (status 200, empty body) — the child list was obtained only from search-engine snippets and remains unverified. No independent record confirms Samuel's own exact birth date (27 March 1803), and no death, burial, marriage, or children records were located. All identity-level claims about Samuel himself are therefore unconfirmed.
Not yet confirmed — probable matches and family lore, shown for research. Treat with caution.
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Samuel (recorded as "Samuel C. Whitley") is listed as a son of John Whitley (1761-1838) and Margaret Hagerman, of Elizabethtown Twp., Leeds Co., Ontario, alongside siblings Phoebe, John, Jane, Sarah (Sally), Jacob, Abigail, and Robert Whitley. unconfirmed
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The father, John Whitley, was born 17 Nov 1761 in Elizabethtown Twp., Leeds Co., Ontario and died Sep 1838; his parents are given as John Whitley and Mary Tucker. likely
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The mother, Margaret Hagerman, was born 28 May 1771 and died 1845 in Leeds and Grenville Co., Ontario; she was a daughter of John Hagerman (United Empire Loyalist) and Phoebe Ferguson. likely
unconfirmed mother.birthPlace: report “not specified in report (report only gives Margaret Hagerman 1771-1845)” vs. found “Conflicting: RootsWeb family group sheet gives Margaret Hagerman's birthplace as 'New Bedford, Bristol Co., Massachusetts'; a Geni-derived search summary gives 'Dutchess, New York'. Hagerman family histories place the Loyalist Hagermans near Poughkeepsie, Dutchess Co., New York before emigrating to Canada in 1784.”. Concerns the mother, not Samuel directly; a data conflict among supporting trees. The Dutchess Co., NY origin is better supported by Hagerman UE Loyalist accounts. Unresolved from secondary sources alone.
unconfirmed father.birthPlace: report “not specified in report” vs. found “Tree gives John Whitley's birthplace as Elizabethtown Twp., Leeds Co., Ontario in 1761 — chronologically implausible, since that area was settled by United Empire Loyalists only c.1784. Likely a tree error (birth probably pre-emigration in the American colonies).”. Concerns the father, not Samuel directly. Flagged because it undermines the reliability of the same trees used to assert Samuel's place in the family.
unconfirmed name: report “Samuel Whitley” vs. found “Samuel C. Whitley (with middle initial 'C') per Geni”. Not a contradiction; the report simply omits a middle initial. Recorded for completeness. Note this middle initial itself comes only from unverified search snippets of the Geni page.
Open questions (7)
- No independent source confirms Samuel Whitley's exact birth date of 27 March 1803; this date comes only from the family report and was not corroborated online.
- The central claim that Samuel is listed among John Whitley and Margaret Hagerman's children rests solely on the Geni profile, whose page body could NOT be rendered by the auditing browser fetch (status 200, empty body). The child list is known only from search-engine extracts and must be confirmed by a logged-in Geni view or an independent FamilySearch/primary record before publication.
- No death, burial, marriage, spouse, or children records were found for this Samuel Whitley. A FindAGrave/BillionGraves memorial could not be located (all 'Samuel Whitley' grave matches were 20th-century US individuals or different surnames).
- Both parent findings were downgraded from confirmed to likely: they are supported only by secondary family trees (no primary records) and concern relatives rather than Samuel himself.
- Resolve Margaret Hagerman's birthplace conflict (New Bedford, MA vs. Dutchess Co., NY).
- The tree-stated birthplace of father John Whitley (Elizabethtown Twp., Ontario, 1761) is chronologically implausible for a Loyalist family and casts doubt on the precision of these trees.
- Samuel's middle initial 'C' is unexplained and itself unverified — could indicate a middle name worth tracing (e.g., a family surname).
Sources consulted (9)
- John Whitley (1761-1838) - Geni · tree
- John WHITLEY / Margaret HAGERMAN family group sheet (RootsWeb / shunkfamilytree) · tree
- John Hagerman UE (1747-1813) - WikiTree · tree
- John Hagerman (1773-1828) - WikiTree · tree
- Hagerman Genealogy - WikiTree · tree
- Whitley Genealogy - WikiTree · tree
- John Hagerman (An American Family History) · website
- Whitley Family: a Virtual Cemetery - Find a Grave · grave
- Samuel Whitley III (1740-1816) - FamilySearch (NOT this person; rejected) · tree
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